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Offline waresky

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2009, 03:25:03 PM »
i like same above..4,5,3 and 1.
Interesting situation born with "true" Aliens NPR:)
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2009, 05:48:57 PM »
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Not necessarily. A more likely scenario is that a planet or a warship spots the thermal contact and the civilian happens to be in the same system. If the warship, planet or civilian ship queries the contact, then that query would give away their position. I am not saying that querying is a bad idea, it might be something I could add to the game, but it would have a downside.

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Maybe make it an order. And a conditional.
I like the idea of being able to query.  Of course, there would be a downside to consider, but that seems to be part of the central premise to Aurora  :D
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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2009, 01:49:57 AM »
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...I am coding for 'civilian' NPR ships such as freighters or colony ships to run away from unknown contacts. I hadn't intended it but as soon as the code was up and running, the player race civilian ships started doing the same....

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This is a very workable solution (and seems realistic to me).

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2009, 05:01:27 AM »
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Another interesting question has just popped up in this area.

I am coding for 'civilian' NPR ships such as freighters or colony ships to run away from unknown contacts. I hadn't intended it but as soon as the code was up and running, the player race civilian ships started doing the same. My first reaction was to prevent the code applying to player race civilians but when I thought about it a little more, I guess it probably should apply. In that way, the Player Race (PR) civilian ships that players can't control will at least have a sense of self-preservation. They will recognize each other by their transponder codes and not run away under those circumstances. However, it then occurred to me that if two PR civilian ships are in a system where transponders are turned off and sensors can only pick them up as thermal contacts, they will run away from each other with possible comedic results. This does seem realistic though and is a major downside of having civilians turn off their transponders.

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Since (I assume) most civilian ships do not include sensors, how would they see the aliens?
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2009, 07:05:09 AM »
All ships include sensors - a half-space thermal if nothing else.
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2009, 07:31:22 AM »
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All ships include sensors - a half-space thermal if nothing else.

Do you mean in Steve's campaign specifically or that all ships have an innate thermal sensor ability?
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2009, 09:23:21 AM »
All ships have an inherent thermal sensor, equivalent to a half-space sensor.
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2009, 10:16:50 AM »
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All ships have an inherent thermal sensor, equivalent to a half-space sensor.

Interesting.  I didn't know that.  Are they automatically "upgraded" when thermal sensor technology progresses?
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2009, 01:11:49 AM »
They're whatever was current for the empire when the ship was built - or more accurately, when the design was last changed, since changing the design for a ship changes all existing ships of that class.
 

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2009, 02:13:02 PM »
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All ships include sensors - a half-space thermal if nothing else.
As of v4.0 (and I think v3.2 as well) ships have an inherent strength-1 thermal sensor and a strength-1 EM sensor. These inherent sensors are ignored if the ship has a more powerful sensor of the same type. To check the sensor ratings, look at the Sensors section on line two of the class summary. It will look similar to Sensors 1/1/0/0. These show the sensor ratings for thermal / EM / Grav / Geo

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2009, 02:22:57 PM »
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All ships include sensors - a half-space thermal if nothing else.
As of v4.0 (and I think v3.2 as well) ships have an inherent strength-1 thermal sensor and a strength-1 EM sensor. These inherent sensors are ignored if the ship has a more powerful sensor of the same type. To check the sensor ratings, look at the Sensors section on line two of the class summary. It will look similar to Sensors 1/1/0/0. These show the sensor ratings for thermal / EM / Grav / Geo

Steve
The tone of your posts today seem to imply that you are close to releasing V4.0 Steve; or am I suffering from wishful thinking?
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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2009, 10:18:29 PM »
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The tone of your posts today seem to imply that you are close to releasing V4.0 Steve; or am I suffering from wishful thinking?
I am getting there but I wouldn't expect anything for perhaps a week or two. As well as my own campaign, my son is running a test campaign and a friend ran through the start of another campaign tonight. That is helping flush out the bugs but there are still some more abilities I want to add to NPRs before I release v4.0.

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2009, 11:26:52 AM »
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All ships include sensors - a half-space thermal if nothing else.
As of v4.0 (and I think v3.2 as well) ships have an inherent strength-1 thermal sensor and a strength-1 EM sensor. These inherent sensors are ignored if the ship has a more powerful sensor of the same type. To check the sensor ratings, look at the Sensors section on line two of the class summary. It will look similar to Sensors 1/1/0/0. These show the sensor ratings for thermal / EM / Grav / Geo

Steve

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2009, 04:58:13 PM »
I think the concept of civilian captains having a sense of self-preservation is a good one.  We recently saw a case where the "mission must go through" got a large number of passengers killed.

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Re: Civilian Transponders
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2009, 01:07:37 AM »
Would it be possible to build a decoy transponder into a missile?

You would basically fire the missile at the same time as you cut off your ship transponder, cut emissions etc... and changed course.