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Offline blue emu

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 03:45:36 PM »
Luna, Mercury and the Asteroid are probably not habitable. Once you have a few dozen million people on Mars, the civilian shipping lines will probably start investing.

They won't start servicing colonies in other solar systems unless you design jump-capable civilian ships for them, or... my own preference... build jump gates to connect-up the areas that you WANT the civvies to service.
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 04:40:15 PM »
Mercury is inhabitable by baseline humans, though the colony cost is fairly high, Luna isn't unless you have heavily genemodded a race or started with an 83% grav tollerance range.
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 04:55:17 PM »
You need quite a few people on a colony before its really a viable trade route, 20 million is a pretty good target minimum.  You can do that on mars without terraforming, tho its expensive in duranium.   On the plus side it makes a really easy/fast trade route.   

I wouldn't subsidize civilians until/unless you have a good wealth income. 
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2011, 04:38:36 PM »
I got the hang of terraforming now and now Mars is no longer supported by infrastructure

I decided to terraform a pretty much almost perfect planet, this wouldn't take long I thought.

Only thing I needed to raise were oxygen pressure levels.

I did that and got it to 0.060 which is the minimum for humans.

The event log then said the planet was suitable, but it still has a colony cost attached to it. How can I fix this, did i miss out on something?
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 04:43:38 PM »
I got the hang of terraforming now and now Mars is no longer supported by infrastructure

I decided to terraform a pretty much almost perfect planet, this wouldn't take long I thought.

Only thing I needed to raise were oxygen pressure levels.

I did that and got it to 0.060 which is the minimum for humans.

The event log then said the planet was suitable, but it still has a colony cost attached to it. How can I fix this, did i miss out on something?

Colony costs include temp, pressure, gravity, and water (I think). So it's more than just getting some O2 into the atmosphere. :)

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2011, 04:54:43 PM »
Hah, alright

But I wonder why I got the message then in the first place...
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2011, 04:57:49 PM »
It gives you a message when the atmosphere becomes breathable, and another when the ice melts (if you are warming up an ice-house world).
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2011, 04:59:52 PM »
Well, it was -2.0 Celsius when I encountered it

The tectonics line says it's dead though, could this be why?

Also, there's a little bit of Neon and 60% Nitrogen in the atmosphere, could this be why it won't go?
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 05:04:25 PM »
The tectonics line says it's dead though, could this be why?

Also, there's a little bit of Neon and 60% Nitrogen in the atmosphere, could this be why it won't go?

No, both of those are fine. It's probably the temperature. Add a bit of Safe Greenhouse Gas.

It could also be the gravity... but there isn't much you can do about that except for biological engineering.
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2011, 05:18:19 PM »
There's a very badly-explained thing where if the atmosphere is more than 30% oxygen the colony cost is 2.0 as if the air was unbreathable. Is this the case here?
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2011, 06:01:48 PM »
If you look at the planet in the System Information panel, you can see what specific factors are causing a colony cost problem. Oxygen 30% will be noted here, as will the temperature multiplier or the presence of noxious gases or an unbreathable atmosphere.
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2011, 09:21:12 PM »
Where can I find System Information?
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2011, 09:54:07 PM »
Big yellow sun button in the center of the top row on the main window.
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2011, 10:26:24 PM »
Ah, it says it has no breathable atmosphere

Also, it says something about being above 30% oxygen

But how can I get a breathable atmosphere if I have to lower oxygen levels?
 

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Re: Terraforming Mars
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2011, 10:39:26 PM »
Just add another gas to dilute the Oxygen concentration.

If it's still a bit chilly, add "Safe Greenhouse Gas". If the high Oxygen levels are the only problem, add something harmless like Nitrogen.