v2.0.0 Changes Discussion Thread

[RougeNPS]

I have suggestions for Nebulas while we are on the subject.

In the game Empire at War, Nebulas on maps reduce or turn off shields and make ships harder to hit while they are inside of them but also harder for ships inside to hit things outside. You could possibly do this by having the nebulas inflict penalties in fleets. Just my suggestion since idk how viable that would be. You could also have it so they reduce sensor signature so you could hide fleets in it if you...wanted to since Stealth ships arent really a thing from what i can tell.

[ISN]

From the changes list:

Wide System View

v2.0 has a wide system view option, similar to the wide view for the class window. The only difference is an extension of the system body list to show an extra six columns. The wide version of the window is 1900 pixels vs 1440 for the normal view.

The system view also has several new fields connected to eccentric orbits.

The picture attached to this post shows a column for "Inclination." Does this have a different meaning for 2D orbits that I'm not aware of? Because these are most definitely not the actual inclinations of the planets, and the game doesn't really model inclination as far as I'm aware so it's kind of strange to see it listed. Is this supposed to be the argument of periapsis or something like that? I don't really know orbital mechanics -- anyone who actually does feel free to chime in here.

[Black]

Maybe it is time to make wide view as default for both system and class windows and rename normal view to something like reduced view.

[TMaekler]

Maybe it is time to make wide view as default for both system and class windows and rename normal view to something like reduced view.

If Aurora would save the setting for each window globally for your game that would be great. So anybody can choose his own preference.

[QuakeIV]

I think wide is a better default.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

I think wide is a better default.

I think so too but Aurora is designed to work within 1440x900 so non-wide is the default. Its easier for people with large screens to make the windows wide than the reverse. Especially for new players who may not understand what they are seeing. Once clicked the windows will stay wide until you close the game, so its only two clicks per session.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

The picture attached to this post shows a column for "Inclination." Does this have a different meaning for 2D orbits that I'm not aware of? Because these are most definitely not the actual inclinations of the planets, and the game doesn't really model inclination as far as I'm aware so it's kind of strange to see it listed. Is this supposed to be the argument of periapsis or something like that? I don't really know orbital mechanics -- anyone who actually does feel free to chime in here.

Inclination in 3D space is the angle by which an orbit deviates from the plane of the ecliptic. In Aurora, I am using it to represent the direction in which the orbit stretches away from the star, which is the opposite direction to the argument of perihelion.

It might not be the correct term from an orbital mechanics perspective, but inclination isn't used in 2D space so I borrowed it to use as a simple term for orbital 'stretchiness'

[xenoscepter]

 --- Did we ever get the fighters not unloading colonists bug fixed for 1.14(2.0)? I and someone else reported that they were still broke, but I don't see a fix in the changelog or the v1.1.3 bugs post...

Posting this here for visibility.

[Norm49]

With the new orbit mechanic it would be nice if we could have some automation with the terraforming installation. It could add or remove green gas to try keeping the temperature to acceptable level.

[Drakale]

Whoa we get seasons now, that's so damn cool.

It would be interesting if a world oscillated between all the hydrosphere freezing and melting, image how chaotic that would be for habitants.

edit: I guess it's not quite season which are based on tilt but similar in practice except planetwide.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

It would be interesting if a world oscillated between all the hydrosphere freezing and melting, image how chaotic that would be for habitants.

Yes, you should see that happen for planets with the right orbits.

[QuakeIV]

I think wide is a better default.

I think so too but Aurora is designed to work within 1440x900 so non-wide is the default. Its easier for people with large screens to make the windows wide than the reverse. Especially for new players who may not understand what they are seeing. Once clicked the windows will stay wide until you close the game, so its only two clicks per session.

Well, this is more of a pain than just changing the default, but you might look at inspecting the display resolution to determine the initial wideness setting.

[Bluebreaker]

I was wondering if it will be possible to limit population to the higher Colony cost with the present infraestructure to avoid accidental genocide.

[nuclearslurpee]

I was wondering if it will be possible to limit population to the higher Colony cost with the present infraestructure to avoid accidental genocide.

Steve confirmed earlier in the thread that the civilians will consider the max colony cost when shipping colonists. Beyond that, as is tradition the onus is on the player. 

[gpt3]

I was wondering if it will be possible to limit population to the higher Colony cost with the present infraestructure to avoid accidental genocide.

Steve confirmed earlier in the thread that the civilians will consider the max colony cost when shipping colonists. Beyond that, as is tradition the onus is on the player. 

As far as I can tell, natural population growth ignores the max colony cost. This must be the Aurora equivalent of real-life people building homes on volcanoes, in floodplains, in the path of hurricanes, etc.