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Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« on: August 07, 2021, 09:34:38 AM »
I am making a program that goes with aurora 4x which advises you on ship designs based on your preferred ship size, cost, materials, crew size, IFR, AFR, HTK, etc.  I was wondering if people could post their favourite ship designs to help me decide on default ship designs.   
 
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Re: Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2021, 02:14:28 PM »
It is for people that use big ship. I use it as an escort for point defence but it is also good for point defence suppression at close range. The 100 tons of ground troop can be useful in some situation but it is 90% for role play. Note that some range of missile and fire control are not matching and can be improve. It is due to rapid wars time refit made with what was available. I am about to do a new refit when the wars will allow me to pull some ship out of the front line.

Shield class Missile Frigate      10 000 tons       303 Crew       1 724,7 BP       TCS 200    TH 1 021    EM 1 380
5104 km/s      Armour 3-41       Shields 46-613       HTK 85      Sensors 9/0/0/0      DCR 23      PPV 35,2
Maint Life 5,16 Years     MSP 1 706    AFR 62%    IFR 0,9%    1YR 107    5YR 1 604    Max Repair 510,4 MSP
Troop Capacity 100 tons     Magazine 120   
Commander    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 36 months    Morale Check Required   

Shield engine MK-2 (1)    Power 1020,8    Fuel Use 15,81%    Signature 1020,8    Explosion 11%
Fuel Capacity 419 000 Litres    Range 47,7 billion km (108 days at full power)
Shield Shield Generator MK-1 (1)     Recharge Time 613 seconds (0,1 per second)

Point defence turret MK-1 (3x3)    Range 40 000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 40 000 km    ROF 5       
Point defence fire control MK-1 (3)     Max Range: 43 200 km   TS: 20 000 km/s     77 54 31 7 0 0 0 0 0 0

Stinger Launcher MK-1 (10)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 30
Stinger Fire control MK-1 (1)     Range 3m km    Resolution 1
Stinger MK-2 (120)    Speed: 63 400 km/s    End: 1,4m     Range: 5,2m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 401/240/120

Missile detector MK-1 (1)     GPS 72     Range 11,7m km    MCR 1,1m km    Resolution 1
Watcher Thermal sensor MK-1 (1)     Sensitivity 9     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  23,7m km

Compact ECCM-1 (4)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

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Re: Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2021, 02:40:38 PM »
Thank you very much for your reply.  I just want to urge more people to respond as well, as the more ship designs are submitted the better my program will be, and I think it could be a useful tool to make it easier and quicker for players to build ships without having to go through each component meticulously to build a ship, before repeating the process every time they research a new component. 
 

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Re: Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2021, 03:45:17 PM »
There is my largest ships in my current game (for now). I do not really use missiles in this game and I roleplay quite a bit, so I am not sure how usefull will this design be to you.

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Project 2126 BC class Battlecruiser      35,000 tons       1,090 Crew       8,042.6 BP       TCS 700    TH 3,840    EM 7,140
5485 km/s      Armour 11-95       Shields 238-476       HTK 230      Sensors 14/14/0/0      DCR 55      PPV 164.62
Maint Life 3.82 Years     MSP 5,026    AFR 280%    IFR 3.9%    1YR 541    5YR 8,119    Max Repair 384 MSP
Captain    Control Rating 5   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Rolls-Royce Large Magneto-plasma Drive  EP768.00 (5)    Power 3840    Fuel Use 39.44%    Signature 768    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 3,039,000 Litres    Range 39.6 billion km (83 days at full power)
Epsilon S119 / R476 Shields (2)     Recharge Time 476 seconds (0.5 per second)

12cm Particle Lance (4)    Range 240,000km     TS: 6,250 km/s     Power 37-5    ROF 40       
30cm Railgun V60/C5 (6x4)    Range 320,000km     TS: 6,250 km/s     Power 21-5     RM 60,000 km    ROF 25       
10cm Railgun V60/C5 (8x4)    Range 60,000km     TS: 6,250 km/s     Power 3-5     RM 60,000 km    ROF 5       
Quad 25mm Gauss Cannon Turret (3x16)    Range 40,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
SPG-P-320-5 Particle Lance Fire Control (1)     Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 5,500 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
SPG-R-320-5 Railgun Fire Control (1)     Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 5,500 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
SPG-R-120-5 Railgun Fire Control (1)     Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 5,500 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
SPG-G-80-20 Gauss Fire Control (1)     Max Range: 80,000 km   TS: 20,000 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0
Tokamak Fusion Reactor R23-2 (4)     Total Power Output 90.5    Exp 5%

SPN-1 Navigation System (1)     GPS 3360     Range 55.1m km    Resolution 120
SPD-1 Missile Detection System (1)     GPS 112     Range 22.3m km    MCR 2m km    Resolution 1
SPS-60 Space Search Sensor (1)     GPS 3360     Range 61.8m km    Resolution 60
SQR-1 Thermal Detection Sensor (1)     Sensitivity 14     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  29.6m km
SDR-1 EM Detection Sensor (1)     Sensitivity 14     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  29.6m km

ECCM-3 (3)         ECM 30

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Re: Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2021, 04:24:28 PM »
The last set of ships I posted are for a missile fighter carrier doctrine with a set of escorts. They have some RP stuff going on that makes them a little weird (excessive amounts of fuel, limited redundancy in fire controls and sensors), but are otherwise pretty solid low tech vessels.

Design decisions to note: everyone gets size 1 passives of both types cause there's just no reason not to have that capacity. Warships get enough MSP to fully rebuild their engines via damage control (so twice the cost) because getting stranded sucks, but I don't invest heavily in damage control rating since getting components repaired takes so much longer than a typical combat encounter. Basically, if it can't be repaired over the course of a handful of minutes, it won't matter if it takes 1 hour or 12 because the outcome will be decided before then.

The thread they are from also had a bunch of doctrinal discussions and I learned a TON from it; might be worth checking it out.

http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=12122.0

More generally, if I were you I'd start looking through the backlog of posts in the C# Bureau of Design forum. It's full of ship designs and discussions of the rationale behind them.

Missile Fighter
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F1B Starshine class Fighter      500 tons       9 Crew       66.9 BP       TCS 10    TH 70    EM 0
7013 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 1      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3.6
Maint Life 2.08 Years     MSP 40    AFR 100%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 12    5YR 185    Max Repair 35 MSP
Magazine 24   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 1.5 days    Morale Check Required   

Westinghouse INF70 Orion Drive (1)    Power 70    Fuel Use 764.95%    Signature 70    Explosion 20%
Fuel Capacity 20,000 Litres    Range 0.94 billion km (37 hours at full power)

Lockheed-Martin External Ordnance Rack (6)     Missile Size: 4    Hangar Reload 100 minutes    MF Reload 16 hours
Lockheed-Martin Missile Fire Control FC26-R100 (1)     Range 26.2m km    Resolution 100
Lockheed-Martin SM4-4 (6)    Speed: 24,800 km/s    End: 13.7m     Range: 20.4m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 82/49/24

Lockheed-Martin Active Search Sensor AS11-R100 (1)     GPS 400     Range 11.7m km    Resolution 100

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction



Sensor fighter
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E1 Stargleam class Fighter      500 tons       16 Crew       77.3 BP       TCS 10    TH 70    EM 0
7013 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 4      Sensors 5/5/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 5.25 Years     MSP 49    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 3    5YR 44    Max Repair 35 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 6 days    Morale Check Required   

Westinghouse INF70 Orion Drive (1)    Power 70    Fuel Use 764.95%    Signature 70    Explosion 20%
Fuel Capacity 34,000 Litres    Range 1.6 billion km (63 hours at full power)

Lockheed-Martin Active Search Sensor AS26-R100 (1)     GPS 2000     Range 26.2m km    Resolution 100
Siemens Thermal Sensor TH1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km
Samsung EM Sensor EM1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction


Carrier
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Ark Royal class Carrier      30,000 tons       416 Crew       2,980.2 BP       TCS 600    TH 1,600    EM 0
2666 km/s      Armour 2-86       Shields 0-0       HTK 128      Sensors 5/5/0/0      DCR 6      PPV 0
Maint Life 1.45 Years     MSP 2,372    AFR 1200%    IFR 16.7%    1YR 1,247    5YR 18,705    Max Repair 200 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 10,000 tons     Magazine 1,296   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   ENG   PFC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 200    Morale Check Required   

Westinghouse INN400 Orion Drive (4)    Power 1600    Fuel Use 40.0%    Signature 400    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2,834,000 Litres    Range 42.5 billion km (184 days at full power)

Lockheed-Martin SM4-4 (324)    Speed: 24,800 km/s    End: 13.7m     Range: 20.4m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 82/49/24

Samsung EM Sensor EM1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km
Siemens Thermal Sensor TH1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km

Strike Group
18x F1B Starshine Fighter   Speed: 7013 km/s    Size: 9.98
2x E1 Stargleam Fighter   Speed: 7013 km/s    Size: 9.98

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Cruiser
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City class Cruiser      15,000 tons       397 Crew       1,704.8 BP       TCS 300    TH 1,200    EM 0
4000 km/s      Armour 4-54       Shields 0-0       HTK 73      Sensors 5/5/0/0      DCR 2      PPV 45
Maint Life 1.59 Years     MSP 2,142    AFR 900%    IFR 12.5%    1YR 980    5YR 14,703    Max Repair 200 MSP
Captain    Control Rating 5   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   
Intended Deployment Time: 9 months    Morale Check Required   

Westinghouse INN400 Orion Drive (3)    Power 1200    Fuel Use 40.0%    Signature 400    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,171,000 Litres    Range 35.1 billion km (101 days at full power)

Krupp 15cm Railgun V30/C3 (5x4)    Range 80,000km     TS: 4,000 km/s     Power 9-3     RM 30,000 km    ROF 15       
Krupp 10cm Railgun V30/C3 (5x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 4,000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 30,000 km    ROF 5       
Siemens R80T4375 Primary Fire Control (2)     Max Range: 80,000 km   TS: 4,375 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0
Atommash IPB30 Nuclear Pile (1)     Total Power Output 30.1    Exp 10%

Lockheed-Martin Active Search Sensor AS11-R100 (1)     GPS 400     Range 11.7m km    Resolution 100
Raytheon Active Search Sensor AS3-R1 (1)     GPS 10     Range 4m km    MCR 359k km    Resolution 1
Samsung EM Sensor EM1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km
Siemens Thermal Sensor TH1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Guided Missile Destroyer
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Hound class Missile Destroyer      8,914 tons       200 Crew       940.6 BP       TCS 178    TH 800    EM 0
4487 km/s      Armour 3-38       Shields 0-0       HTK 45      Sensors 5/5/0/0      DCR 2      PPV 18.6
Maint Life 1.77 Years     MSP 931    AFR 318%    IFR 4.4%    1YR 368    5YR 5,513    Max Repair 200 MSP
Magazine 232   
Commander    Control Rating 2   BRG   AUX   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Westinghouse INN400 Orion Drive (2)    Power 800    Fuel Use 40.0%    Signature 400    Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 350,000 Litres    Range 17.7 billion km (45 days at full power)

Krupp 10cm Railgun V30/C3 (3x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 4,487 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 30,000 km    ROF 5       
Siemens R80T4375 Primary Fire Control (1)     Max Range: 80,000 km   TS: 4,375 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0
Westinghouse IPN9 Nuclear Pile (1)     Total Power Output 9.3    Exp 5%

KTRV S4R600 Lauch Tube (6)     Missile Size: 4    Rate of Fire 600
Lockheed-Martin Missile Fire Control FC26-R100 (1)     Range 26.2m km    Resolution 100
Lockheed-Martin SM4-4 (58)    Speed: 24,800 km/s    End: 13.7m     Range: 20.4m km    WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 82/49/24

Raytheon Active Search Sensor AS3-R1 (1)     GPS 10     Range 4m km    MCR 359k km    Resolution 1
Siemens Active Search Sensor AS16-R10 (1)     GPS 350     Range 16.1m km    Resolution 10
Samsung EM Sensor EM1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km
Siemens Thermal Sensor TH1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
 

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Re: Shipbuilding Advisor Program
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2021, 08:54:55 PM »
My latest thing is shoehorning pre-WWI navy ships into Aurora so for what it's worth the Bellerophon class Dreadnought.

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Bellerophon class Dreadnought      32,998 tons       999 Crew       4,529.2 BP       TCS 660    TH 3,300    EM 0
5000 km/s      Armour 9-91       Shields 0-0       HTK 186      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 22      PPV 171
Maint Life 2.04 Years     MSP 2,387    AFR 396%    IFR 5.5%    1YR 765    5YR 11,480    Max Repair 412.50 MSP
Magazine 193   
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Morale Check Required   

Hausner Aeromarine P825 Ion Drive (4)    Power 3300.0    Fuel Use 36.27%    Signature 825.00    Explosion 11%
Fuel Capacity 1,500,000 Litres    Range 22.6 billion km (52 days at full power)

Lycan Weapon Systems 12-inch Mark X Naval Gun (10x4)    Range 140,000km     TS: 5,000 km/s     Power 21-3     RM 20,000 km    ROF 35       
Lycan Weapon Systems QF 4-inch Mark VII Naval Gun (16x4)    Range 20,000km     TS: 5,000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 20,000 km    ROF 5       
Farrell-Chambers Electronic Systems R144-TS5100 Fire Control Director (3)     Max Range: 144,000 km   TS: 5,100 km/s     93 86 79 72 65 58 51 44 38 31
GE R39 Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor (2)     Total Power Output 78.5    Exp 5%

Type 11 Torpedo Launcher (3)     Missile Size: 11    Rate of Fire 50
Thomason & Pridgeon FC15-R1 Torpedo Fire Control (1)     Range 15.1m km    Resolution 1
Type 11 Anti-Ship Torpedo (17)    Speed: 25,000 km/s    End: 9.7m     Range: 14.5m km    WH: 16    Size: 11.0    TH: 116/70/35

Vickers AS15-R1 Electronic Rangefinder (1)     GPS 120     Range 15.1m km    MCR 1.4m km    Resolution 1