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Posted by: Garfunkel
« on: January 18, 2021, 03:33:46 AM »

He's referencing the Perry Expedition of 1852-1853, known as the Arrival of the Black Ships in Japan, during which Americans forced Japan to open up for trade at gunpoint. This led to the fall of the Shogunate and the Meiji Restoration, which launched modern Japan. The trauma of the event probably also played a significant part in Japanese consciousness during the latter part of the 19th century and early 20th century, emphasizing the importance of Japan becoming a big, strong, imperialistic power or end up colonized by the USA, which in turn directly led to the Pacific War.
Posted by: Migi
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:49:48 PM »

Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on January 05, 2021, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.


Didn't we do that to the Japanese?

...

I guess they DID end up declaring war on us in the end.
Point of fact: the Yangtze is in China, not Japan.
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:14:06 AM »

Quote from: RougeNPS on January 06, 2021, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: Zap0 on January 05, 2021, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: Golem666 on January 05, 2021, 05:00:30 PM
Thanks everyone for help, solved it by leaving their home system and moving to one neighbouring it, there they are willing to talk.  One more question, do they mind ships that they cannot detect(cloaking and low TH and EM)?

They need to be able to see your ship and you need to be able to see them. The first part is easy, just turn on the transponder. Otherwise you can know if they can see you if they're sending you messages, if you're in a system they'll send messages in.

Or missiles. Always be careful.

These aliens live on radiation. That missile was their version of a fruit basket!
Posted by: RougeNPS
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:10:08 AM »

Quote from: Zap0 on January 05, 2021, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: Golem666 on January 05, 2021, 05:00:30 PM
Thanks everyone for help, solved it by leaving their home system and moving to one neighbouring it, there they are willing to talk.  One more question, do they mind ships that they cannot detect(cloaking and low TH and EM)?

They need to be able to see your ship and you need to be able to see them. The first part is easy, just turn on the transponder. Otherwise you can know if they can see you if they're sending you messages, if you're in a system they'll send messages in.

Or missiles. Always be careful.
Posted by: Zap0
« on: January 05, 2021, 11:52:53 PM »

Quote from: Golem666 on January 05, 2021, 05:00:30 PM
Thanks everyone for help, solved it by leaving their home system and moving to one neighbouring it, there they are willing to talk.  One more question, do they mind ships that they cannot detect(cloaking and low TH and EM)?

They need to be able to see your ship and you need to be able to see them. The first part is easy, just turn on the transponder. Otherwise you can know if they can see you if they're sending you messages, if you're in a system they'll send messages in.
Posted by: RougeNPS
« on: January 05, 2021, 07:38:30 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on January 05, 2021, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on January 05, 2021, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.


Didn't we do that to the Japanese?

...

I guess they DID end up declaring war on us in the end.

Japanese cannot be trusted, and I know: I married one  :o

Guess who im telling you said that.
Posted by: Droll
« on: January 05, 2021, 05:15:24 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on January 05, 2021, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on January 05, 2021, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.


Didn't we do that to the Japanese?

...

I guess they DID end up declaring war on us in the end.

Japanese cannot be trusted, and I know: I married one  :o

Did she start a land war in Asia?
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: January 05, 2021, 05:14:25 PM »

Quote from: TheTalkingMeowth on January 05, 2021, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.


Didn't we do that to the Japanese?

...

I guess they DID end up declaring war on us in the end.

Japanese cannot be trusted, and I know: I married one  :o
Posted by: Golem666
« on: January 05, 2021, 05:00:30 PM »

Thanks everyone for help, solved it by leaving their home system and moving to one neighbouring it, there they are willing to talk.  One more question, do they mind ships that they cannot detect(cloaking and low TH and EM)?
Posted by: TheTalkingMeowth
« on: January 05, 2021, 04:34:22 PM »

Quote from: Steve Walmsley on January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.


Didn't we do that to the Japanese?

...

I guess they DID end up declaring war on us in the end.
Posted by: Steve Walmsley
« on: January 05, 2021, 04:27:03 PM »

Quote from: Golem666 on January 05, 2021, 03:52:23 PM
Hey, I've met my first not immediately hostile NPR and sent a diplomatic ship to them but after I deciphered their language they have been telling me he leave that system, how do improve relation with them when they don't allow diplomatic ships in their territory?

Try to find somewhere they feel less threatened to have the discussion. If the USA sailed a warship up the Yangtze to show how friendly they were, it might not work out as hoped.

Also it depends on the tone. If they are suggesting you leave, you might be able to overcome the diplomacy hit with a good diplomat. If they demand you leave urgently, then either leave urgently or ready the fleet.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: January 05, 2021, 04:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Golem666 on January 05, 2021, 03:52:23 PM
Hey, I've met my first not immediately hostile NPR and sent a diplomatic ship to them but after I deciphered their language they have been telling me he leave that system, how do improve relation with them when they don't allow diplomatic ships in their territory?

Well, to leave will be the first step  ;)

You need to wait for encounters on more friendly ground but mostly will be determined by their level of xenophobia.
Posted by: Golem666
« on: January 05, 2021, 03:52:23 PM »

Hey, I've met my first not immediately hostile NPR and sent a diplomatic ship to them but after I deciphered their language they have been telling me he leave that system, how do improve relation with them when they don't allow diplomatic ships in their territory?