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Offline Kaiser (OP)

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Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« on: May 20, 2020, 01:17:51 PM »
So guys, I know there are a bunch of bugs here, but I want see it clear.

I have a colony which has a refuelling station only, no cargo handling capability, no ordnance transfer capability.

The colony has neither MSP nor maintenance facility.

At the colony there are some military ships (which consume MSP) and a maintenance ship designed as supply ship which has a cargo handling component.

All the military ships have 0 MSP (due to the maintenance) and also the maintenance ship has 0 MSP.

Also, there are 2 supply ship plenty of MSP BUT because a design error, they do not have a cargo shuttle bay, as far as I understood whithout this component a supply ship cannot transfer MSP to other ships; however MSP are slowly decreasing as if the military ships are getting those from the supply ships.

It seems a rebus, however how is possible the supply ships are consuming MSP?
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2020, 01:26:07 PM »
I think you should write it in the bug forum. Because it seems Steve forgot to add that little detail.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2020, 01:32:32 PM »
Question: does the maintenance ship have cargo shuttles? (Really, for completeness, does anything at the location have cargo shuttles?)

If it does, it might be possible that it is extracting MSP from the supply ships. Not sure whether that would be working as intended, but probably worth checking?
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2020, 02:49:08 PM »
The maintenance ship has a Cargo shuttle bay.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2020, 03:12:45 PM »
The maintenance ship has a Cargo shuttle bay.
Maybe test what happens if you move it away from the colony, then?
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2020, 11:24:41 AM »
The maintenance ship has a Cargo shuttle bay.
Maybe test what happens if you move it away from the colony, then?

Yes it is a bug, once I moved the ship with the Cargo shuttle bay away from the colony, the supply ships have stopped losing MSP.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2020, 11:38:24 AM »
I think it's not a bug, even if it's not WAI.  ::)
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2020, 12:31:11 PM »
The maintenance ship has a Cargo shuttle bay.
Maybe test what happens if you move it away from the colony, then?

Yes it is a bug, once I moved the ship with the Cargo shuttle bay away from the colony, the supply ships have stopped losing MSP.

When maintenance ship is gone then nothing is consumed, it's normal. There was not a facility to maintain ships anymore in the first place.

I think whichever ship has the cargo shuttle bay can use it to draw supllies when neccessary. So I wasn't aware that some ship has shuttle bays when I suggested you to report this as a bug.

Manintenance ship draw MSP from supply ships using its own cargo shuttles is quite logical.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2020, 01:06:59 PM »
The maintenance ship has a Cargo shuttle bay.
Maybe test what happens if you move it away from the colony, then?

Yes it is a bug, once I moved the ship with the Cargo shuttle bay away from the colony, the supply ships have stopped losing MSP.
It's not obvious that a ship with shuttles can automatically take MSP from supply ships without them, but it seems like the more-desirable implementation to me.

I guess that means I agree with serger, though I don't know whether or not it's WAI.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2020, 01:12:44 PM »
The thing is they don't. They are maintained in the maintenance modules on the maintenance ship with cargo bays. That ship can pull MSP from cargo bayless supply ship. So the chain goes full circle.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2020, 01:27:06 PM »
Can you post the design of the supply ship for us to see?
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2020, 01:49:53 PM »
The thing is they don't. They are maintained in the maintenance modules on the maintenance ship with cargo bays. That ship can pull MSP from cargo bayless supply ship. So the chain goes full circle.
Huh? Nothing's going in a circle here. The maintenance ship is extracting supplies from the supply ship to feed its maintenance module.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2020, 01:56:39 PM »
Because maintenance ship has cargo shuttle bays. He wrote that...
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2020, 02:01:58 PM »
Because maintenance ship has cargo shuttle bays. He wrote that...
Yes? This is true and important but I have no idea where you are going with it.
 

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Re: Re-supply ship - Strange behaviour
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2020, 02:05:45 PM »
So I explained it two posts ago. Maintenance ship has the ability to pull&push cargo with its on board cargo shuttle bays. So it pulls from supply ships and maintains the fleet.

Edit: After he pulled the maintenance ship away transfer has stopped.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 02:08:54 PM by consiefe »