v1.13.0 Changes Discussion Thread

[Droll]

I just wanted to clarify, does the armour repair that happens in hangers cost MSP or is it free?

It costs MSP

[Vasious]

Possibly a dumb question, but how to the RP modules fit in to damage?

Ignored/excluded or damageable?

[RougeNPS]

They will probably be a 1 hit to destroy kinda thing.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Possibly a dumb question, but how to the RP modules fit in to damage?

Ignored/excluded or damageable?

The HTK is equal to the square root of the size. I've updated the rules post with that information.

[serger]

Sorry for possibly dumb question, but what is the use of larger shield generators? If I may judge from the post (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg102769#msg102769), they are simultaneously more expensive (BC, TNM require, RC) and more vulnerable per size sum, having no advantage I can see comparable to stacked smaller generators.

[TheTalkingMeowth]

Sorry for possibly dumb question, but what is the use of larger shield generators? If I may judge from the post (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg102769#msg102769), they are simultaneously more expensive (BC, TNM require, RC) and more vulnerable per size sum, having no advantage I can see comparable to stacked smaller generators.

Not really the right thread (better to ask in the thread for small questions), but the answer is that larger shield generators have a shield output bonus.

2xsize 10 generators produce a weaker shield than 1xsize 20 generator.

[Jorgen_CAB]

Sorry for possibly dumb question, but what is the use of larger shield generators? If I may judge from the post (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=8495.msg102769#msg102769), they are simultaneously more expensive (BC, TNM require, RC) and more vulnerable per size sum, having no advantage I can see comparable to stacked smaller generators.

You gain more shield strength the larger the shield generator is... SQRT(HS/10) times the shield strength.

So a strength 3 size 5 shield have 10.6 shield points and a size 20 have 84.8 shield points.

They both recharge the same amount of points per 5 sec interval for their size though.

[serger]

Aw. "Normal strength" is a strength per ton, not a strength of 10HS generator!

[Jorgen_CAB]

Aw. "Normal strength" is a strength per ton, not a strength of 10HS generator!

It is the normal strength per HS of shield generator which is *1 at size 10 due to the formula. So a strength 3 size 10 shield generator have 30 shield point (strength 3 times 10 HS).

[SpaceMarine]

Steve can you clarify something for me with the repair yards, can the yards provide the ability for you to overhaul ships? If so this gives me a lot of ideas and uses for forward operating bases that can have repair yards, or secondary colonies with repair yards that have ships stationed there.

[nuclearslurpee]

Note that as Repair Yards are upgraded like commercial shipyards, they are faster and cheaper to construct than a naval shipyard with the same capacity. They provide a much cheaper option for military repair capacity, allowing naval shipyards to focus on construction. The cost of a specific ship repair will remain the same in all types of shipyard.

This will be lovely for making distant naval outposts easier to set up, very nice.

Steve can you clarify something for me with the repair yards, can the yards provide the ability for you to overhaul ships? If so this gives me a lot of ideas and uses for forward operating bases that can have repair yards, or secondary colonies with repair yards that have ships stationed there.

Maintenance facilities and MSP are required for an overhaul, not shipyards. I can't recall if you also need a spaceport, but in any case the shipyard is not used for overhauls.

[SpaceMarine]

am misremembering then, my bad, but yea this is a really nice addition.

[Droll]

How many workers will the new repair yards need per tonnage of ship serviced?
Will it be less than naval yards?

Edit: Nvm I just re-read the post, same as commercial

[Froggiest1982]

I assume it will now not possible to repair ships in normal shipyards, correct?

If not, has the displacement bug been fixed?

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Steve can you clarify something for me with the repair yards, can the yards provide the ability for you to overhaul ships? If so this gives me a lot of ideas and uses for forward operating bases that can have repair yards, or secondary colonies with repair yards that have ships stationed there.

No, they are still shipyards, not maintenance facilities.