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Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« on: August 12, 2024, 06:08:50 PM »
The class templates are great, but, Missile designs not being shareable between empires is an issue when using class templates of classes with missile launchers pulled from empires of different tech levels. The only way to “copy” the missiles is to painstakingly re-set the engine tech levels to the desired point and then design an identical missile.

So, is it possible to do a class template-type thing with missile designs? It would sure make my big plans easier to implement.
 

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Re: Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2024, 03:00:29 PM »
I'll support this one because it'd also help in multiplayer games. I am a GM for one and some factions have discussed sharing missile designs but can't. At least not easily
 
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Re: Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2024, 04:10:45 PM »
I'll support this one because it'd also help in multiplayer games. I am a GM for one and some factions have discussed sharing missile designs but can't. At least not easily

I had the same request when I was GM for a multiplayer game two years back. Perhaps an implementation could look at making all racial component, missile & turret designs (as well as ship designs) possible to share?
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Re: Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2024, 07:38:02 AM »
The issue is sharing a design with a race that doesn't have the tech to build it.

You can already research alien missile designs in v2.6
 

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Re: Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2024, 10:23:30 AM »
The issue is sharing a design with a race that doesn't have the tech to build it.
That is handled pretty neatly by having designs with alien components IMO (so to build an alien design you would also need the components with missing techs to be transferred which there already are mechanics for).

On top of that I think it's only Armour tech level that would be a bit of a tricky point how to handle. Although I could be missing something here.

Edit: Maybe just block sharing of designs with higher armour level?
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Re: Make Missile Designs shareable between empires?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 10:51:20 AM »
There are more than a dozen different tech lines associated with missiles and the missile design doesn't necessarily include that information. For example, the missile has warhead strength, but not warhead tech, or endurance but not fuel consumption tech, or active sensor strength, but not sensor tech.

To do this, I would have to maintain a record of every tech that went into designing a missile, not just the missile characteristics, or add considerable code to try to reverse engineer it and work out the tech. Neither is a quick option.
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