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New FNE "Ironsides F II" revised
« on: November 21, 2009, 04:35:13 AM »
The situation with our Drive tech (MOST real possible dating,am not think on 2190 we can have a SuperMarvelAnti-Matter Drive..guys:)..stop our Naval Designer many step back.

(srry my english r very puny for explain my thinking)hope r barely understandable.

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FNE Ironsides F II class Battlecruiser    32450 tons     2510 Crew     8956.34 BP      TCS 649  TH 405  EM 900
1248 km/s     Armour 5-90     Shields 30-240     Sensors 160/240/0/0     Damage Control Rating 109     PPV 72
Annual Failure Rate: 290%    IFR: 4%    Maintenance Capacity 6002 MSP    Max Repair 1344 MSP
Flag Bridge    Magazine 2607    

GeneralElectrics Ion Engine E2 ARM-2 (18)    Power 45    Fuel Use 20%    Signature 22.5    Armour 2    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 360,000 Litres    Range 99.8 billion km   (925 days at full power)
Gamma R240/8 Shields (15)   Total Fuel Cost  120 Litres per day

CIWS-320 ECCM-1 (2x4)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
RGM Size 6 Missile Launcher (12)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 25
A-Fighter Missile Fire Control FC240-R4 (40%) (1)     Range 28.8m km    Resolution 4
A-Boat Missile Fire Control FC240-R18 (40%) (2)     Range 129.6m km    Resolution 18
RGM-6 Arrowhead T 169 (434)  Speed: 16,000 km/s   End: 125m    Range: 120m km   WH: 12    Size: 6    TH: 122 / 73 / 36

AF 10 Active Search Sensor S480-R5 (40%) (1)     GPS 2400     Range 24.0m km    Resolution 5
AS 16 Active Search Sensor S768-R20 (40%) (1)     GPS 15360     Range 153.6m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH5-160 (40%) (1)     Sensitivity 160     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  160m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-240 (40%) (1)     Sensitivity 240     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  240m km

Compact ECCM-1 (2)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

so this newly Battlecruiser r very slow compared some Hyperraces around in ur empire.:D
BUT r more realistic.
Am think with this limitation,our NavalDesigner r too confident on waste resources and time to build this SittingDuckmonster.
but our tech r this..and this r our capability.
 

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Re: New FNE "Ironsides F II" revised
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2009, 08:43:50 AM »
I have played around with the ship disign thingy and have created this one.

Note: This is no actual ship design, I only used this to try a few things.

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New Class class Cruiser    32700 tons     2211 Crew     5120.2 BP      TCS 654  TH 810  EM 1800
1651 km/s     Armour 15-91     Shields 60-300     Sensors 64/64/0/0     Damage Control Rating 31     PPV 72
Annual Failure Rate: 275%    IFR: 3.8%    Maintenance Capacity 3034 MSP    Max Repair 320 MSP
Magazine 2620    

MTU Typ 60/75 Ionentriebwerk (18)    Power 60    Fuel Use 70%    Signature 45    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 350,000 Litres    Range 27.5 billion km   (192 days at full power)
Grundig Gamma/2 Schutzschild (30)   Total Fuel Cost  420 Litres per day

Krupp AMS-70 (2x4)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Rheinmetall Wespennest(S) ASR Werfer (12)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 60
Siemens Typ 1,9 ARR Leitsystem (1)     Range 1.9m km    Resolution 1
Siemens Typ 144 ASR Leitsystem (1)     Range 144.0m km    Resolution 50
Rheinmetall Falke II ASR (437)  Speed: 18,600 km/s   End: 59.6m    Range: 66.6m km   WH: 7    Size: 6    TH: 86 / 52 / 26

Bosch Typ 2,4/0 Radarsystem (1)     GPS 240     Range 2.4m km    Resolution 1
Bosch Typ 288/90 Radarsystem (1)     GPS 28800     Range 288.0m km    Resolution 90
Bosch Typ 25,6/20 Radarsystem (1)     GPS 2560     Range 25.6m km    Resolution 20
Telefunken Typ 64 Wärmesensor (1)     Sensitivity 64     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  64m km
Siemens Typ 64 EM Sensor (1)     Sensitivity 64     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  64m km


I used the largest passive and active sensors I have currently designed, but I realize, those are way smaller than yours, so I have a mass-advantage there (not an intel one though). I would, however, use a dedicated fleet scout, that will hang back a couple million km if the need for longer range sensors comes up.

The big thing I did was using unarmored engines. If your armored ones mass 450t (I have never tried armored engines), as you said for your moster battleship, by this I save 3.600t. This alone would allow to up the armor to 9, which, IMO, is much better protection than armoring the engines alone.
Just to see what can be done, I used the saved mass from my smaller sensors to up the armor and shields even more, giving me a real "Ironclad".
I also use engines, which do not trade power for fuel efficiency/safety from explosion on the theory that by armoring up my ship and being faster, the engines will be less likely to be hit (by the time the armor is breached, the ship will be out of ammo anyway and being slow as it is, it _will_ go down enventually)

I realy like the massive magazines, your ships have  :)

Your ship is also very, very fuel efficient. I would have to at least double the fuel storage in my ship to make it viable. But while fuel efficiency will bring you to the battle, it won´t help you _in_ the battle, so I practically never trade speed for range (in military ships, that is).
Ralph Hoenig, Germany
 

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Re: New FNE "Ironsides F II" revised
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2009, 09:20:11 AM »
Nice design.
the beautiful Steve's program are..never same design can afford in 2 campaign,or very rare.IF one year or another this game come online r very tricky for those capability.
U have point to me a very intriguing design idea,for my techDrive capability..armor drive vs armor ship..and so on.
Also..danke mate:)
 

 

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