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Offline Jong

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Building captured ships
« on: June 08, 2011, 09:25:26 PM »
So I captured a Swarm Queen.  It didn't go down particularly cleanly, because I fought it in a level 8 nebula next to my home system.  It's pretty funny when the soldiers are slower than the mothership.

I prepared a suitably large shipyard beforehand, which I intended to use to repair the captured ship, and then disassemble the components for tech.  I noticed that even though the design shows up in the class design window, you can't build it, which seemed reasonable as the ship isn't really a valid ship.  Then I pressed the copy design button, and suddenly I can build my own Star Swarm, I just need to get my hands on a worker and a soldier.

Of course I can't add more components of tech I don't have, but I can see that I could potentially build more of these components for risk free tech disassembly.  It's not entirely free, as I think I won't get back the minerals, and of course there's the wealth spent.  Is this a legitimate strategy?

On another note, how do I use salvaged components in my own ships? There are these delicious strength 2000 passives inside the mothership that I really want to mount onto a surveillance ship.
 

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Re: Building captured ships
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 07:23:53 AM »
A FAC blew up when I shot it with microwaves.  Is it a bug?
 

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Re: Building captured ships
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 08:04:57 AM »
So I captured a Swarm Queen.  It didn't go down particularly cleanly, because I fought it in a level 8 nebula next to my home system.  It's pretty funny when the soldiers are slower than the mothership.

I prepared a suitably large shipyard beforehand, which I intended to use to repair the captured ship, and then disassemble the components for tech.  I noticed that even though the design shows up in the class design window, you can't build it, which seemed reasonable as the ship isn't really a valid ship.  Then I pressed the copy design button, and suddenly I can build my own Star Swarm, I just need to get my hands on a worker and a soldier.

Of course I can't add more components of tech I don't have, but I can see that I could potentially build more of these components for risk free tech disassembly.  It's not entirely free, as I think I won't get back the minerals, and of course there's the wealth spent.  Is this a legitimate strategy?

On another note, how do I use salvaged components in my own ships? There are these delicious strength 2000 passives inside the mothership that I really want to mount onto a surveillance ship.

Did the various advanced tech components show in your race components list(cntl-F7)?  It sounds like the answer is no, in which case you should not be able to build the design without having pre-built/salvaged parts stockpiled. 

I suggest reporting this as a bug.
Amateurs study tactics, Professionals study logistics - paraphrase attributed to Gen Omar Bradley
 

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Re: Building captured ships
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 08:06:15 AM »
A FAC blew up when I shot it with microwaves.  Is it a bug?

More detail is needed.

What are the game log entries? 
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Re: Building captured ships
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 09:51:00 AM »
Quote from: Charlie Beeler link=topic=3711.  msg35971#msg35971 date=1307624697
Did the various advanced tech components show in your race components list(cntl-F7)?  It sounds like the answer is no, in which case you should not be able to build the design without having pre-built/salvaged parts stockpiled.   

I suggest reporting this as a bug. 

Oh haha I didn't actually try to add a shipyard task for the queen.   I just tried it and it told me that I can't build ships with components that I can't build and don't have stockpiled.   Whoops false alarm :P I guess I could use the copy design to make a ship designed to use captured components.   Hmm but what if I had salvaged components from a wreck? How would I go about putting them into my own ships?

Log entry from the first salvo which took out the engine, which surprised me.   I thought the AI was trying to trick me. 

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30th January 2042 22:22:51,Corsairs,London,Goiingsak 132 hit by 1 points of damage from R4.  5/C3 High Power Microwave
30th January 2042 22:22:51,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 hit by 1 points of damage from an energy or kinetic weapon
30th January 2042 22:22:51,Star Swarm,Carpi,The ship has no shields
30th January 2042 22:22:51,Star Swarm,Unknown,As a result of combat, the crew grade bonus of Soldier 001 has increased to 0%
30th January 2042 22:22:51,Star Swarm,Carpi,GB Magneto-plasma Drive E70 destroyed on Soldier 001 after receiving 1 points of damage.   10 Casualties. 
30th January 2042 22:22:51,Star Swarm,Carpi,As Soldier 001 has slowed to 1 km/s due to damage, it has been detached from Queen 001 - Parasites. 

Other hits.   Ironically when the active sensor, the bit I was trying to damage, blew up, the ship was destroyed. 

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30th January 2042 22:23:01,Corsairs,London,Goiingsak 132 hit by 1 points of damage from R4.  5/C3 High Power Microwave
30th January 2042 22:23:01,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 hit by 1 points of damage from an energy or kinetic weapon
30th January 2042 22:23:01,Star Swarm,Carpi,The ship has no shields
30th January 2042 22:23:01,Star Swarm,Unknown,As a result of combat, the crew grade bonus of Soldier 001 has increased to 0%
30th January 2042 22:23:01,Star Swarm,Carpi,R12/C3 Meson Cannon destroyed on Soldier 001 after receiving 1 points of damage.   18 Casualties. 

30th January 2042 22:23:06,Corsairs,London,Goiingsak 132 hit by 1 points of damage from R9/C3 High Power Microwave
30th January 2042 22:23:06,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 hit by 1 points of damage from an energy or kinetic weapon
30th January 2042 22:23:06,Star Swarm,Carpi,The ship has no shields
30th January 2042 22:23:06,Star Swarm,Unknown,As a result of combat, the crew grade bonus of Soldier 001 has increased to 0%
30th January 2042 22:23:06,Star Swarm,Carpi,Fuel Storage - Small destroyed on Soldier 001 after receiving 1 points of damage.   0 Casualties. 

30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 hit by 1 points of damage from an energy or kinetic weapon
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,The ship has no shields
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Unknown,As a result of combat, the crew grade bonus of Soldier 001 has increased to 0%
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 destroyed on Soldier 001 after receiving 0 points of damage.   0 Casualties. 
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,Active Search Sensor MR11-R1 destroyed on Soldier 001 after receiving 1 points of damage.   3 Casualties. 
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Corsairs,London,Goiingsak 132 hit by 1 points of damage from R9/C3 High Power Microwave
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 hit by 1 points of damage from an energy or kinetic weapon
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,The ship has no shields
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Unknown,As a result of combat, the crew grade bonus of Soldier 001 has increased to 0%
30th January 2042 22:23:26,Star Swarm,Carpi,Soldier 001 suffers complete structural failure due to the amount of damage it has received.   The ship is destroyed. 

I'm guessing that it is either a bug, or I am mistaken about how microwaves work.  I thought they would only damage electronic components. 
« Last Edit: June 09, 2011, 09:57:32 AM by Jong »
 

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Re: Building captured ships
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 11:01:01 PM »
It's more likely a special feature of the way Star Swarm units work.  Since they're living creatures, I think you fried its brain.
 

 

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