Change Log for 6.40 Discussion

[Erik L]

Would it be difficult to have options to add black holes also to non real stars games?

It would be sweet to be able to run games where you can encounter both kinds of strange astronomical features added!

They should already be there.

[Zed 6]

Will Hyper Drive ever return?

[alex_brunius]

They should already be there.

Ok! Then I guess they are just rare, though I read somewhere they are only used in real stars games...

[Wolfius]

Both nebula and black holes are in random stars games? When did that happen?  I've been hoping for that since they were introduced.

I think you took them out since there were none in the volume of space you had catalogued with the Real Stars option.

I think you're thinking of nebulas.

Tho I'd personally like a game start option to enable both; I like them, I don't care if it's unrealistic, but I know there are others who disagree.

[Conscript Gary]

Suggestion: tie the size of exclusion zones to a race's militancy/xenophobia/expansionism as well as political modifier. Static values between games are dull, and increasingly-bolder forays near your worlds would be a good barometer for deteriorating relations.

[MarcAFK]

All these NPR enhancements are awesome, and I'll be restarting my campaign when the next. Erosion comes out so I can add the USSR, China, Europe/NATO, and possibly African nations, South/central American Union, India, and Pacifica. I imagine by that time my progress will still be so low I can easily recreate everything in the new game.

[Shuul]

So will we see 6. 40 in January?

[Zincat]

I am really glad about the civilian scrapping change steve just put up, but I would say that 10 years is a bit too long for scrapping. 10 years is a long time. How about reducing it to 8 years or something? What do you guys think?

[joeclark77]

It'd be interesting if shipping lines would specialize.  Say you start with one colony ship line, one freighter line, etc.  That way they'd grow in accordance with the actual demand for shipping, instead of growing randomly.  You wouldn't end up with a glut of colony ships and a shortage of freighters, for example.  And you could direct your subsidies to just what you want to see more of.

[Alfapiomega]

One thing that I find a bit strange is what happens if the ship is on a long cargo route. Steve mentioned it's conditional orders get deleted and so do the current orders. What happens to the cargo?

[MarcAFK]

It's default orders get deleted, I imagine it finisheds it's current orders before being scrapped.

[Alfapiomega]

It's default orders get deleted, I imagine it finisheds it's current orders before being scrapped.

I re-read it and I missed the bold letters. So it's ok

During the 5-day update any ships flagged for scrap and without orders are scrapped at that point. This should result in a lot more of the older ships being scrapped.

[Aldaris]

I am really glad about the civilian scrapping change steve just put up, but I would say that 10 years is a bit too long for scrapping. 10 years is a long time. How about reducing it to 8 years or something? What do you guys think?

Personally I think the opposite. Once you get to the higher engine techs, you're likely to spend significantly longer than that between major new shipping tech developments. I'd suggest changing the mechanic to "After 10 years it checks if there's a engine tech available, if so, scrap, if not, mark for re-check next year and keep chugging along. Scrap anyway at the 20-year mark."

[Alfapiomega]

Personally I think the opposite. Once you get to the higher engine techs, you're likely to spend significantly longer than that between major new shipping tech developments. I'd suggest changing the mechanic to "After 10 years it checks if there's a engine tech available, if so, scrap, if not, mark for re-check next year and keep chugging along. Scrap anyway at the 20-year mark."

Not a bad idea.

[Wolfius]

I am really glad about the civilian scrapping change steve just put up, but I would say that 10 years is a bit too long for scrapping. 10 years is a long time. How about reducing it to 8 years or something? What do you guys think?

Ten years is fine; if anything I wouldn't mind if it was longer, atleast if it took tech into account. iRL freighters are usually built with a 25-30 year life-expectancy, tho especially earlier on when you've got fairly rapid and dramatic improvments in the tech avalible that can feel like it's a tad too long.