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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2020, 05:30:39 PM »
By carefully placing waypoints on planetary bodies, Skylab has successfully deployed 2-stage scout missiles to all bodies in the inner solar system. The final stage of each missile was armed with an engineless active sensor buoy and all are apparently operating properly. Next test will be passive sensor buoys followed by geo and grav survey buoys.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2020, 05:48:44 PM »
Again, using waypoints carefully placed on planetary bodies and setting said waypoints as targets for Skylab's MFC, I have succeeded in deploying thermal and EM sensor satellites to all bodies in the inner solar system.

Next, Red Team will test the effectiveness of Blue Team's sensor satellites while Blue Team continues research into geo and grav survey sensors.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2020, 07:18:52 PM »
Fearing Blue Team's comprehensive satellite network, Red Team has developed the following interplanetary survey vessel:

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Alexei Leonov class Survey Ship      24,999 tons       297 Crew       1,310.3 BP       TCS 500    TH 75    EM 0
150 km/s      Armour 3-76       Shields 0-0       HTK 134      Sensors 0/0/0/1      DCR 37      PPV 57
Maint Life 9.03 Years     MSP 3,004    AFR 185%    IFR 2.6%    1YR 66    5YR 995    Max Repair 135.16 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 375 tons     Cryogenic Berths 400   
Kapitan vtorogo ranga    Control Rating 2   BRG   SCI   
Intended Deployment Time: 84 months    Flight Crew Berths 60    Morale Check Required   

Red Team Conventional Engine  EP18.75 (4)    Power 75.0    Fuel Use 30.81%    Signature 18.75    Explosion 7%
Fuel Capacity 1,400,000 Litres    Range 32.7 billion km (2524 days at full power)

Quad Red Team Gauss Cannon R200-100 Turret (1x8)    Range 20,000km     TS: 1000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 20,000 km    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Red Team Beam Fire Control R20-TS1250 (1)     Max Range: 20,000 km   TS: 1,250 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50

Red Team Active Search Sensor AS10-R500 (1)     GPS 500     Range 10m km    Resolution 500
Red Team Active Search Sensor AS1-R1 (1)     GPS 1     Range 1.3m km    MCR 113.5k km    Resolution 1
Red Team EM Sensor EM0.1-0.5 (1)     Sensitivity 0.5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5.6m km
Red Team Thermal Sensor TH0.1-0.5 (1)     Sensitivity 0.5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5.6m km
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

Strike Group
1x Krivak SA Scout   Speed: 40 km/s    Size: 2.48
1x Krivak SE Scout   Speed: 40 km/s    Size: 2.48
1x Krivak ST Scout   Speed: 40 km/s    Size: 2.48

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Each parasite scout craft carry a copy of their mothership's sensor array. The -SA variant carries an active sensor, the -SE carries an EM, and the -ST carries a thermal sensor. The Alexei Leonov class was designed to perform a comprehensive geological survey of the Sol system and only a single ship will be constructed. Results of the AL's survey, and detection of any potential Blue Team targets, is pending...
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2020, 10:03:53 AM »
Red Team has deployed the Alexei Leonov to Earth orbit. Leonov's active sensors have been engaged and all of Blue Teams sensor satellites (1x each of active, thermal, and EM) are clearly visible to Leonov as well as Blue Team's shipyard complex, Skylab, and ground populations. Leonov can also detect Blue Team's active sensor satellite in orbit around Luna, however the passive sensors also in orbit around Luna remain undetected.

Due to a planning oversight, Alexei Leonov must remain docked in overhaul until additional ground-based maintenance facilities can be completed and orbital shipyards expanded. Once capable of leaving Earth orbit, Leonov will begin a geological survey of the solar system.

Meanwhile, Alexei Leoniv is clearly visible on Blue Teams active, thermal, and EM sensors. Plans are in motion to develop and deploy a network of geological survey satellites while Leoniv remains in overhaul. Blue Team may yet complete surveying the Sol system before Red Team. More to follow...

Attached are screenshots of Red and Blue teams tactical maps near Earth orbit.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2020, 10:26:09 AM »
Much to the dismay of Red Team and the crew of the Alexei Leonov, Blue Team's Skylab has successfully deployed geosurvey scout missiles to all major planetary bodies in the inner solar system. The crew of the Leonov could do nothing but watch as the missiles raced away from Earth, and quickly lost sight of the missiles on their onboard sensors. Blue Team also deployed a geo-scout missile to the asteroid Ceres in hopes of finding mineral deposits on this unusually large asteroid. It is expected to take several years for these geo-scout missiles to complete their surveys.

Unfortunately, Blue Team will not be able to continue to use it's geo-scout missiles to survey the planets in the outer solar system. While the missiles have more than sufficient range and endurance, Blue Team cannot develop a longer ranged missile fire control than that already installed on Skylab. Therefor, a mobile survey ship must be developed to complete the surveys of the outer planets. Blue Team will next develop it's own interplanetary survey craft to compete with Red Team's Alexei Leonov.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2020, 10:46:13 AM »
Red Team has completed overhauling the Alexei Leonov, and the ship prepares to depart Earth orbit for a year long geological survey tour throughout the inner solar system as well as Jupiter and Saturn.

Blue Team's geosurvey satellites are beginning to return survey data. So far, significant mineral deposits have only been found on Mars, however not all satellites have yet completed their surveys. Blue team has begun development of it's own interplanetary survey ship, Discovery II, which will complete the geological survey of the solar system. This ship will also mount gravitational survey sensors in addition to geological sensors, a technology which Red Team has yet to develop. Provided that a suitable jump point can be located, Blue Team next plans on developing a jump engine capable of propelling a ship to a distant star system. Further surveys will then commence in whatever new systems can be reached.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2020, 11:09:52 AM »
Alexei Leonov has successfully completed surveys of the inner solar system as well as Jupiter and Saturn. Red Team confirmed Blue Teams reports of mineral deposits on Mars and also new major deposits on Venus. Blue Team confirmed Red Teams survey results on Venus within a month. Red Team also discovered several minor mineral deposits on several of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.

Blue Team lost tracking of Leonov beyond the orbit of Mars due to limitations of Skylab's sensor arrays. Red Team noticed this and plans on conducting additional probing tests of the capabilities of Skylab's sensors in future missions, particularly with Leonov's complement of scout ships.

Blue team continues to develop their new survey ship Discovery II.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2020, 11:16:26 AM »
I don't think fire control range matters when targeting waypoints. You have to have a fire control to set the target, but the tiniest little 5 ton FC can launch a missile at any waypoint at any distance (at least a few versions ago when I did it, don't think it's changed)
 

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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2020, 11:28:12 AM »
I don't think fire control range matters when targeting waypoints. You have to have a fire control to set the target, but the tiniest little 5 ton FC can launch a missile at any waypoint at any distance (at least a few versions ago when I did it, don't think it's changed)

I will test and post back. I need a grav survey ship no matter what though since I can't mount grav survey sensors on a missile.
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Re: geosurvey missiles?
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2020, 12:42:12 PM »
Blue Team has finalized their design of the new Discovery II survey ship:

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Discovery II class Survey Ship      25,000 tons       741 Crew       3,619.3 BP       TCS 500    TH 160    EM 390
320 km/s      Armour 2-76       Shields 13-325       HTK 126      Sensors 250/250/1/1      DCR 25      PPV 4
Maint Life 7.61 Years     MSP 14,342    AFR 200%    IFR 2.8%    1YR 436    5YR 6,544    Max Repair 500 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 250 tons     Troop Capacity 250 tons     Drop Capable    Magazine 19    Cryogenic Berths 1,000   
Captain    Control Rating 3   BRG   ENG   SCI   
Intended Deployment Time: 60 months    Flight Crew Berths 40    Morale Check Required   

Blue Team Commercial Nuclear Pulse Engine  EP80.0 (2)    Power 160.0    Fuel Use 5.76%    Signature 80.0    Explosion 4%
Fuel Capacity 400,000 Litres    Range 50 billion km (1808 days at full power)
Blue Team Alpha S13 / R325 Shields (1)     Recharge Time 325 seconds (0 per second)

Blue Team Size 1 Missile Launcher (1)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 30
Blue Team Size 3.0 Missile Launcher (1)     Missile Size: 3    Rate of Fire 55
Blue Team Missile Fire Control FC2-R1 (2)     Range 2.5m km    Resolution 1
Blue Team ICBM (2)    Speed: 200 km/s    End: 47.4m     Range: 0.6m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 1/0/0
Blue Team IPBM (2)    Speed: 200 km/s    End: 26.7d     Range: 460.8m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Scout Missile IV - Active (1)    Speed: 67 km/s    End: 1,508.4d     Range: 8,692.9m km    WH: 0    Size: 3    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Scout Missile IV - EM (1)    Speed: 100 km/s    End: 1,508.4d     Range: 13,032.8m km    WH: 0    Size: 2    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Scout Missile IV - Thermal (1)    Speed: 100 km/s    End: 1,508.4d     Range: 13,032.8m km    WH: 0    Size: 2    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Spy Satellite II - EM (2)    Speed: 0 km/s    End: 0m     Range: 0m km    WH: 0    Size: 1    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Spy Satellite II - Thermal (2)    Speed: 0 km/s    End: 0m     Range: 0m km    WH: 0    Size: 1    TH: 0/0/0
Blue Team Spy Satellite III - Active (2)    Speed: 0 km/s    End: 0m     Range: 0m km    WH: 0    Size: 2    TH: 0/0/0

Blue Team Active Search Sensor AS130-R100 (1)     GPS 50000     Range 130.9m km    Resolution 100
Blue Team Active Search Sensor AS223-R500 (1)     GPS 250000     Range 223.9m km    Resolution 500
Blue Team Active Search Sensor AS28-R1 (1)     GPS 500     Range 28.2m km    MCR 2.5m km    Resolution 1
Blue Team EM Sensor EM50-250 (1)     Sensitivity 250     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  125m km
Blue Team Thermal Sensor TH50-250 (1)     Sensitivity 250     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  125m km
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

Strike Group
1x Stiletto Boarding Transport   Speed: 1921 km/s    Size: 5

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

The Discovery II is a considerable improvement over Red Team's Alexei Leonov. The Discovery II travels at over twice the speed of the Leonov, has 5/3 the range, is capable of conducting both geological and gravitational surveys, mounts a more capable weapon system, much better sensors, and can also carry troops for ground based geosurvey operations. Additionally, Blue Team developed the Stiletto boarding transport to accompany the Discovery II should the Alexei Leonov attempt any aggressive maneuvers:

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Stiletto class Boarding Transport      250 tons       6 Crew       22.2 BP       TCS 5    TH 10    EM 0
1921 km/s      Armour 3-3       Shields 0-0       HTK 1      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 19.34 Years     MSP 25    AFR 5%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 0    5YR 2    Max Repair 6 MSP
Troop Capacity 100 tons     Boarding Capable   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 1 days    Morale Check Required   

Blue Team Nuclear Pulse Engine  EP9.60 (1)    Power 9.6    Fuel Use 876.85%    Signature 9.60    Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 2,000 Litres    Range 0.2 billion km (23 hours at full power)

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction

The Stiletto can transport a boarding party of well armed marines onto any ships similar to the Leonov, should tensions between Red and Blue team escalate. Combined with the potent missile armament of the Discovery II, it is expected that the Leonov will maintain a safe distance.

Additionally, Blue Team discovered that by targeting it's missiles at waypoints placed on distant planetary bodies, even those located outside of MFC range, it can successfully deploy sensor satellites to distant locations. As a test of this deployment scheme, Blue Team launched several geosurvey missiles at Jupiter and the Galilean moons. All 5 sensors deployed flawlessly and have started providing useful survey data to Blue Team.

With these developments, Red Team is scrambling to advance it's knowledge of jump point theory and gravitational survey sensors. Perceiving a significant lack of defensive capability with the deployment of Discovery II, Red Team is beginning development of several new fighter-sized ships with various weapon systems and combat capabilities. In the meantime, Alexei Leoniv will continue geological surveys of the remaining un-surveyed bodies in the solar system, avoiding Discovery II when necessary.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2020, 12:44:23 PM by liveware »
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