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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4455 on: January 31, 2025, 09:43:05 AM »
Re Ship Design priority numbers.

When looking at the Priories/Misc tab in Ship Design what is the number range that can be used for the different Priorities . Is it in the range 1-5 or 1-10?

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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4456 on: January 31, 2025, 05:12:24 PM »
Re Ship Design priority numbers.

When looking at the Priories/Misc tab in Ship Design what is the number range that can be used for the different Priorities . Is it in the range 1-5 or 1-10?

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The range is as high as you want (or at least up to some absurd quantity like 2147483647).
 
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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4457 on: February 02, 2025, 10:20:30 AM »
How does missile retargeting work?
Does a missile need active sensor onboard for it?
I launched some missiles waves against a target, that was destroyed after the third one. The remaining missiles disappeared. How could I have them back and direct them to a new target?
 

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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4458 on: February 02, 2025, 10:49:39 AM »
Unless your missiles have been built with the missile retargeting technology , there is no way to retarget them
 

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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4459 on: February 02, 2025, 12:09:45 PM »
Unless your missiles have been built with the missile retargeting technology , there is no way to retarget them

Yes, they are.
Attached the design.
But after their first target was destroyed, they just disappeared from the system map. And I can't find a command to assign them a new target.
 

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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4460 on: February 02, 2025, 01:58:48 PM »
Unless your missiles have been built with the missile retargeting technology , there is no way to retarget them

Yes, they are.
Attached the design.
But after their first target was destroyed, they just disappeared from the system map. And I can't find a command to assign them a new target.

I think there is some misconception, and you can see details here: https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13090.msg164114#msg164114

If you wish for your missile to engage new targets you require AS sensors in a similar way mines work.
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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4461 on: February 02, 2025, 02:15:20 PM »
Thank you Froggiest.
I suspected this, as I asked for in "Reply #4457".
I also searched for details, but didn't find the rule.
But, IMHO, it seems something is missing: if retargeting asks necessarily for an active sensor, and having "Terminal Guidance" is not enough to trigger retargeting (i.e., it isn't an AS), when we select "Retarget Capability" in the missile design, I think it should automatically also require that "Active Sensor" must be <> 0. So, at least a warning message should appear, or eventually we shouldn't be allowed to "Create" the design, if AS is 0.
Thermal or EM sensors would they work too, instead of AS?
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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4462 on: February 02, 2025, 03:35:05 PM »
Thank you Froggiest.
I suspected this, as I asked for in "Reply #4457".
I also searched for details, but didn't find the rule.
But, IMHO, it seems something is missing: if retargeting asks necessarily for an active sensor, and having "Terminal Guidance" is not enough to trigger retargeting (i.e., it isn't an AS), when we select "Retarget Capability" in the missile design, I think it should automatically also require that "Active Sensor" must be <> 0. So, at least a warning message should appear, or eventually we shouldn't be allowed to "Create" the design, if AS is 0.
Thermal or EM sensors would they work too, instead of AS?

No, because and I quote:"This provides ultra-short-range target assessment capability"

The module allows the missile to work on the pattern of tge target selected and preloaded by the MFC of the ship at launch, it won't be able to process data from a new target. I think most of the confusion comes from the selected name, which can easily deceive the actual purpose.

I would have use the Active Tracking System (ATS) Capability or even Continuos Tracking Guidance (CTG) Capability.
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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4463 on: February 02, 2025, 05:01:05 PM »
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The module allows the missile to work on the pattern of tge target selected and preloaded by the MFC of the ship at launch, it won't be able to process data from a new target. I think most of the confusion comes from the selected name, which can easily deceive the actual purpose.
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So, a missile with retarget capability will continue to search for and only the same target, pre-assigned at launch, and won't change to a new, different, target, correct?
If so, I agree with you about the name of this technology. And I hope that, in a future game version, we could assign missiles to new targets.
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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4464 on: February 02, 2025, 06:27:56 PM »
So, a missile with retarget capability will continue to search for and only the same target, pre-assigned at launch, and won't change to a new, different, target, correct?

Yes

If so, I agree with you about the name of this technology. And I hope that, in a future game version, we could assign missiles to new targets.

I am quite sure you can already do that by providing your missiles of active sensors able to properly lock on enemies within range of both fuel and intervals to target. But to be fair, I am going from memory as since the all mines not working mess I have developed the habit of just normal missiles waves to 1 target at the time by fired bt multiple ships to multiple targets.

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Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Reply #4465 on: February 03, 2025, 04:07:21 AM »
Retarget ability means the missile will keep trying to hit its original target if it misses the first attack run.

You need to assign your missiles active sensors if you want to them to switch to a new target in the case their original target is lost for whatever reason.

If your missile has both, it will keep trying to it its original target but if that is lost, then it will find a new target inside its own sensor range and then will keep trying to hit that target until it hits or is destroyed or runs out of fuel.