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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by StarshipCactus on May 17, 2023, 06:51:08 AM »
Maybe the time has come for a brand new campaign?

I thought I'd post some cleanup for this campaign, wrapping some things up, then start on an Aurora campaign.  It has been a long time since I did anything more than dabble with Aurora, though, so it'll take me some time to re-learn how it works.
A lot has happened in this campaign and there have been a few good places to end things, I think just post D'Bringi schism is a pretty good place to end things. We'll just have to imagine the how the CU and Alliance fight the Mintek and whoever their masters are and hopefully live mostly happily ever after. I'm sure they could work something out. Although I guess the Alliance can stomp the Mintek by themselves with that kind of economy lol.

If you plan on having several playable races, I would recommend you familiarise yourself with the DB. I've found I need to do a lot of DB editing, especially to simulate trading and stuff. If you just have 2 rival races it probably won't be an issue.
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by nuclearslurpee on May 16, 2023, 10:13:14 PM »
Maybe the time has come for a brand new campaign?

I thought I'd post some cleanup for this campaign, wrapping some things up, then start on an Aurora campaign.  It has been a long time since I did anything more than dabble with Aurora, though, so it'll take me some time to re-learn how it works.

I too am sorry to hear this is coming to a close. I lost track of the thread a while back and just started re-reading from the beginning, so perhaps by the time I get to the end it will be concluded.

However I would be very excited to see a new Kurt Aurora AAR, it's been a long time since the VB6 ones and Steve is not holding up his end of the fiction forum so someone has to.  :P  I also look forward to seeing you put to test the supposition that a long-running campaign with 100s of systems is not doable in Aurora, mind you I am not expecting you to disprove the notion, just to test it very thoroughly.  ;D
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by Kurt on May 16, 2023, 06:52:10 PM »
Maybe the time has come for a brand new campaign?

I thought I'd post some cleanup for this campaign, wrapping some things up, then start on an Aurora campaign.  It has been a long time since I did anything more than dabble with Aurora, though, so it'll take me some time to re-learn how it works. 
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by Kiero on May 16, 2023, 08:45:40 AM »
Maybe the time has come for a brand new campaign?
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New Cold War / Cold War
« Last post by Kurt on May 13, 2023, 10:22:39 AM »
Okay, so here is where we're at.  The Cold War Campaign is getting more and more time consuming to move forward, as the races have grown and the turns take longer to process.  While still not as large as the Phoenix Campaign was, it has gotten to the point where I have to force myself to sit down and work through each turn.  I could continue, if I wanted, but I feel like I'm at the point of diminishing returns. 

As Gyrfalcon noted, the Alliance is now the dominant power in known space.  Even if all of the other powers in known space joined together against them it's not clear they could defeat them, as the Alliance also has the highest technology, and the other powers would have to attack independently, without being able to coordinate, for the most part.  The Mintek, the primary aggressor race in the campaign at this point, was not shown in the recent comparison post, but if they had been it would be clear they are outmatched.  Their income is approximately equal to that of the CSR, which means it is half that of the Alliance, and their fleet is at a similar disadvantage.  Worse, they have no friends, and if/when they launched their final assault on the Alliance, they would rapidly find themselves under attack from at least the CSR, if not the Colonial Union as well. 

All of this means that I am considering calling a halt to the Campaign at this point.  The Campaign is over three years old at this point, and that's longer than I thought I would be running it.  I'll let you all know what I decide shortly. 
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by Gyrfalcon on April 22, 2023, 04:02:52 PM »
Sure, but that’s all meta. None of the races are likely to jump the Alliance together like that, and their free budget almost equals the next race’s total budget. All that money goes towards continued expansion and ever-accelerating research.
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by Andrew on April 22, 2023, 11:02:23 AM »
Not necessarily we know there is a high tech 3rd party out there, an attack by them could hurt the Alliance very badly. They have a closed WP into one of the core Alliance systems taking out that world and its nearby colonies would cripple the Alliance.
A Close alliance of the 2nd and 3rd powers would be close to or superior to the Alliance, particularly if was a planned war with the 2 allied powers surge buidling a fleet before the war. I also did not recognise the Mintek alliance in that chart , while probably smaller than the Alliance they also had a tech superiority and have probably still got a small one.
Finding a closed WP into a critical area of the enemy is always a game changer if the attacker can seize core worlds cutting the economy and shipyard advantage of the larger power and maybe catching a major fleet by suprise and concentrating a bug force against it
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by Gyrfalcon on April 22, 2023, 04:31:41 AM »
The Alliance had more or less hit the point where they’ve ‘won’ and all that’s left is clearing the board. You see it in games like Stellaris a lot where outside special mechanics there’s nothing left that can challenge your snowball.
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New Cold War / Re: Cold War Comments Thread
« Last post by StarshipCactus on April 22, 2023, 04:04:16 AM »
Oh wow, the difference between the CU and Alliance is pretty big, although the Alliance do have a lot of territory to protect so can't deploy everything easily. If the CU and Alliance fight, the CU had better hope they can gain a tech advantage, tactical advantage or have allies who can take some of the pressure off.
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New Cold War / Cold War: Month 231 National Comparison
« Last post by Kurt on April 21, 2023, 11:01:37 AM »
Note: The data for this was taken from Month 231, because I advanced the turn before remembering I wanted to do this.  So it won’t match up with the numbers given in the recent updates. 

Income and Upkeep for Core Polities:
Alliance         Income: 339,905 MCr’s      Upkeep: 117,494 MCr’s (34.6%)      
CSR                 Income: 182,031 MCr’s      Upkeep: 58,313 MCr’s (32%)
Colonial Union      Income: 179,557 MCr’s      Upkeep: 65,059 MCr’s (36%)
Zir Commonality   Income: 97,053 MCr’s      Upkeep: 31,464 MCr’s (32.4%)
CFS                  Income: 29,268 MCr’s      Upkeep: 10,584 MCr’s (35%)

Income and Upkeep for Core Polities and their treaty-bound Associates
Alliance         Income: 477,500 MCr’s      Upkeep: 155,738 MCr’s (34.6%)      
CSR                 Income: 202,601 MCr’s      Upkeep: 63,657 MCr’s (31.4%)
Colonial Union      Income: 188,649 MCr’s      Upkeep: 65,126 MCr’s (34.5%)
Zir Commonality   Income: 118,073 MCr’s      Upkeep: 41,552 MCr’s (35%)
CFS                  Income: 29,268 MCr’s      Upkeep: 10,584 MCr’s (35%)

Fleets (including treaty-bound)
Alliance: 20xCV, 13xCVL, 16xCVS, 137xCVE, 6xML, 15xSD, 15xBB, 79xBC, 97xCA, 83xCL, 119xDD, 31xFG, 369xCT, 12xES, 250xEX, 6xBS5, 9xBS4, 37xBS3, 62xBS2, 39xBS1, 141xBS0, 7xAF(2116 HS), 6xPDC (438 HS)

Colonial Union: 4xCV, 20xCVL, 1xCVS, 100xCVE, 15xSD, 3xBB, 33xBC, 32xCA, 49xCL, 46xDD, 19xFG, 47xCT, 16xES, 120xEX, 24xBS3, 11xBS2, 26xBS1, 84xBS0, 3xAF(2007 HS), 6xPDC(438 HS)

Confederated Sentient Races: 9xCV, 1xCVL, 25xCVS, 36xCVE, 12xML,, 33xBC, 11xCa, 15xCL, 56xDD, 20xFG, 48xCT, 3xES, 3xEX, 12xBS4, 74xBS3, 6xBS2, 3xAF(777 HS), 12xPDC(1707 HS)

Confederated Free States: 15xCVE, 1xSD, 6xBC, 12xCA, 18xDD, 3xCT, 16xES, 21xBS3

Zir Commonality: 11xCV, 18xBC, 2xCVE, 49xDD, 119xFG, 179xCT, 3xBS6, 12xBS4, 12xBS2, 36xBS0

Alliance                  Total Ships: 1672   Total HS: 60,223
Colonial Union         Total Ships: 687      Total HS: 25,119
Confed Sentient Races   Total Ships: 430      Total HS: 22,330
Zir Commonality      Total Ships: 455      Total HS: 13,322
Confed Free States      Total Ships: 96      Total HS: 3,730

   
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